Sunday, October 4, 2009
Reason Four - Erasmus Manford
4. God is Omnipotent. “The Lord Omnipotent reigneth.” Rev. 19:6. Therefore, nothing is too mighty for him to do. He can save the world. Where is the Christian who would not redeem all mankind, had he the power? God possesses the power, and will he not do it? Is the creature better than the Creator? God forbid any should think so.
Reason Three - Erasmus Manford
3. God is love, is infinitely good. “There is none good but one, that is God.” Mark 10:18. On the words “God is love,” Dr. A. Clarke, the celebrated Methodist Commentator, writes as follows:
An infinite Fountain of benevolence and beneficence to every human being. He hates nothing that he has made. He cannot hate, because he is love. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good; and sends his rain on the just and the unjust. He has made no human being for perdition. It has been well observed that although God is holy, just, righteous, etc., he is never called Holiness, Justice, etc. in the abstract, as he is here called Love. This seems to be the essence of the Divine nature, and all other attributes to be only modifications of this.”
God, then, never created a soul knowing it would be miserable forever.
An infinite Fountain of benevolence and beneficence to every human being. He hates nothing that he has made. He cannot hate, because he is love. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good; and sends his rain on the just and the unjust. He has made no human being for perdition. It has been well observed that although God is holy, just, righteous, etc., he is never called Holiness, Justice, etc. in the abstract, as he is here called Love. This seems to be the essence of the Divine nature, and all other attributes to be only modifications of this.”
God, then, never created a soul knowing it would be miserable forever.
Reason Two - Erasmus Manford
2. God must have designed what he knew would be the eternal destiny of each individual of our race. If he knew all would be saved, he must have designed the salvation of all; and if he knew part would be saved, and part damned without relief and without end, he must have designed the salvation of some and the damnation of others. Every man designs what he knows will be the result of his voluntary acts. If I know when I speak to a certain person he will fall at my feet dead, and if I persist in speaking to him with this knowledge of the consequence, I, of course, intend he shall die; so if God knows the destiny of all men, and I have proved that he does, all who go to heaven will go there by his decree, and all who go to hell will go there by his decree. This is just as certain as that two and two make four. Arminianism, then, is resolved into Calvinism. Would God have created conscious beings, knowing and intending that eternal misery would be their doom? Impossible, utterly impossible, for
ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY REASONS
ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY REASONS
FOR BELIEVING IN THE FINAL SALVATION
OF ALL MANKIND
By Erasmus Manford
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“What is Truth?”
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Second Edition
Cincinnati
Manford and Torrey
1849
The Reasons:
1. God is Omniscient. “His understanding is infinite; declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done.” “Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.” Psalm 147:5; Isa. 46:10; Acts 15:18. God, then, as well knew when he created Adam what would be the eternal destiny of every individual of his posterity, as he will know when the last generation of man shall have entered on their eternal state. If all are to be saved, he knew it; and if part are to be saved, and part eternally damned, the fate of each individual soul was known to him. These conclusions are just as certain as that God’s knowledge is infinite.
FOR BELIEVING IN THE FINAL SALVATION
OF ALL MANKIND
By Erasmus Manford
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
“What is Truth?”
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Second Edition
Cincinnati
Manford and Torrey
1849
The Reasons:
1. God is Omniscient. “His understanding is infinite; declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done.” “Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.” Psalm 147:5; Isa. 46:10; Acts 15:18. God, then, as well knew when he created Adam what would be the eternal destiny of every individual of his posterity, as he will know when the last generation of man shall have entered on their eternal state. If all are to be saved, he knew it; and if part are to be saved, and part eternally damned, the fate of each individual soul was known to him. These conclusions are just as certain as that God’s knowledge is infinite.
Wednesday, September 30, 2009
Free Must Read Book post by Jack D
The most persuasive verses that are used to argue in favor of eternal damnation use the word aion spelled, alpha – iota – omega – nu, as eternal or for ever etc.
The Septuagint is the Old Testament translated from Hebrew to Greek. It was translated some 200 years before Jesus earthly ministry. Jesus and the Apostles apparently used the Septuagint when they quoted the Old Testament, so it must be an okay translation. It is also apparent that the word aiwn did not mean without end or for ever, even though the KJV did translate it that way.
Numerous passages using aion in the Septuagint
show clearly it cannot mean “never-ending.” Note these few:
♦ Jonah was in the fish forever [aiwnioi] until he left three days
later (Jon. 1:17; 2:6).
♦ Sodom’s fiery judgment is eternal [aiwniou] until God returns
them to their former state (Ez. 16:53-55; Ju. 7).
♦ A Moabite is forbidden to enter the Lord’s congregation forever
[aiwna] until the 10th generation (De. 23:3).
♦ Mountains are everlasting
[aiwniav] until they are scattered
(Hab. 3:6).
♦ A slave serves his master forever
[aiwna] until death ends
his servitude (Ex. 21:6). Or until the year of Jubile. Le 25:13
♦ The Mosaic covenant is everlasting
[aiwnion] until it vanishes
away (Le. 24:8; He. 8:7-13).
♦ The Aaronic priesthood is everlasting [aiwna] until the likeness
of Melchizedek arises (Ex. 40:15; Nu. 25:13; He. 7:14-22).
♦ These “stones” are to be a memorial forever[aiwnov] until (Jos. 4:7)?
Where are they now?
♦ The leprosy of Naaman shall cling forever [aiwna] until Gehazi’s death, or sooner… (2K. 5:27 2K 8:4-5 we find Gehazi in the presence of the King having a nice chat. Not likely if he was still white with leprosy).
♦ God dwells in Solomon’s temple forever [aiwnov] until it is destroyed
(2Ch. 7:16; 1K 8:13; 9:3).
♦ Animal sacrifices were to be offered forever [aiwna] until
ended by the work of Christ (2Ch. 2:4; He. 7:11-10:18).
♦ Circumcision was an everlasting [aiwnion] covenant until the
new covenant (Ge. 17:9-13; 1Co. 7:19; Ga. 5:6).
♦ Israel’s judgment lasts forever [aiwnov] until the Spirit is
poured out and God restores it (Is. 32:13-15).
The preceding list and most comments are from Gerry Beauchemin's book HOPE BEYOND HELL available free online at HopeBeyondHell.net I inserted the Septuagint words and added a bit to the contents so if you want to know exactly what Gerry said, you'll just have to go online and get his book...or if you know me, come to my house and ask for a hard copy, I have a few available for free.
The Septuagint is the Old Testament translated from Hebrew to Greek. It was translated some 200 years before Jesus earthly ministry. Jesus and the Apostles apparently used the Septuagint when they quoted the Old Testament, so it must be an okay translation. It is also apparent that the word aiwn did not mean without end or for ever, even though the KJV did translate it that way.
Numerous passages using aion in the Septuagint
show clearly it cannot mean “never-ending.” Note these few:
♦ Jonah was in the fish forever [aiwnioi] until he left three days
later (Jon. 1:17; 2:6).
♦ Sodom’s fiery judgment is eternal [aiwniou] until God returns
them to their former state (Ez. 16:53-55; Ju. 7).
♦ A Moabite is forbidden to enter the Lord’s congregation forever
[aiwna] until the 10th generation (De. 23:3).
♦ Mountains are everlasting
[aiwniav] until they are scattered
(Hab. 3:6).
♦ A slave serves his master forever
[aiwna] until death ends
his servitude (Ex. 21:6). Or until the year of Jubile. Le 25:13
♦ The Mosaic covenant is everlasting
[aiwnion] until it vanishes
away (Le. 24:8; He. 8:7-13).
♦ The Aaronic priesthood is everlasting [aiwna] until the likeness
of Melchizedek arises (Ex. 40:15; Nu. 25:13; He. 7:14-22).
♦ These “stones” are to be a memorial forever[aiwnov] until (Jos. 4:7)?
Where are they now?
♦ The leprosy of Naaman shall cling forever [aiwna] until Gehazi’s death, or sooner… (2K. 5:27 2K 8:4-5 we find Gehazi in the presence of the King having a nice chat. Not likely if he was still white with leprosy).
♦ God dwells in Solomon’s temple forever [aiwnov] until it is destroyed
(2Ch. 7:16; 1K 8:13; 9:3).
♦ Animal sacrifices were to be offered forever [aiwna] until
ended by the work of Christ (2Ch. 2:4; He. 7:11-10:18).
♦ Circumcision was an everlasting [aiwnion] covenant until the
new covenant (Ge. 17:9-13; 1Co. 7:19; Ga. 5:6).
♦ Israel’s judgment lasts forever [aiwnov] until the Spirit is
poured out and God restores it (Is. 32:13-15).
The preceding list and most comments are from Gerry Beauchemin's book HOPE BEYOND HELL available free online at HopeBeyondHell.net I inserted the Septuagint words and added a bit to the contents so if you want to know exactly what Gerry said, you'll just have to go online and get his book...or if you know me, come to my house and ask for a hard copy, I have a few available for free.
Tuesday, September 29, 2009
Cool Verses posted by Jack
Isa 53:11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied:
Lu 19:10 For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.
2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
1Ti 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.
Jo 4:42 …this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.
1Jo 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.
Isa 57:16 For I will not contend for ever, neither will I be always wroth: for the spirit should fail before me, and the souls which I have made.
Ro 8:38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
1Co 13:8 Charity never faileth!
Ro 8:21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
Ro 11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
Lu 2:10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.
Lu 19:10 For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.
2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
1Ti 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.
Jo 4:42 …this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.
1Jo 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.
Isa 57:16 For I will not contend for ever, neither will I be always wroth: for the spirit should fail before me, and the souls which I have made.
Ro 8:38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
1Co 13:8 Charity never faileth!
Ro 8:21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
Ro 11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
Lu 2:10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.
Monday, September 28, 2009
Christians Metanoeite! by Jack D
Did you know that the Greek word for repent literally means to think differently! Christians, we need to "repent", that is, “think differently”.
Doesn’t God command us to think of others as better than ourselves. Php 2:3… in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.
Didn’t Jesus save us when we were yet in our sins? Eph 2:3And (you) were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. 4 But God, …5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
How can those who die not knowing Jesus be better than someone who trusted Jesus in this life?
Easy! Because God is able to make them stand just like he made us believe in him. After all it is by grace you are saved and that NOT of yourself it IS the gift of God, and Ro 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. With man it is impossible, but with God all things are possible.
Doesn’t God command us to think of others as better than ourselves. Php 2:3… in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.
Didn’t Jesus save us when we were yet in our sins? Eph 2:3And (you) were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. 4 But God, …5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
How can those who die not knowing Jesus be better than someone who trusted Jesus in this life?
Easy! Because God is able to make them stand just like he made us believe in him. After all it is by grace you are saved and that NOT of yourself it IS the gift of God, and Ro 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. With man it is impossible, but with God all things are possible.
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